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What happens when a veteran oncologist pulls back the curtain on cancer treatment? Dr. Orlando Silva doesn't just challenge conventional wisdom—he shatters it with decades of clinical experience and a passionate commitment to patient-centered care.

Cancer is fundamentally a metabolic disease, yet this critical fact remains largely overlooked in standard oncology practice. "Traditional oncologists believe you can eat whatever you want," Dr. Silva explains, revealing how dietary interventions like ketogenic diets can starve cancer cells while nourishing patients. This represents just one of many blind spots in conventional treatment approaches.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Dr. Silva discusses powerful complementary treatments including ivermectin, fenbendazole, and mebendazole—medications with multiple mechanisms of action that can enhance chemotherapy's effectiveness while reducing side effects. He shares the remarkable story of Joe Tippins, who eliminated over 90 metastases using fenbendazole after being told nothing more could be done for his small cell lung cancer. When Tippins returned to his oncologist cancer-free, the doctor's response spoke volumes: "I don't believe in what you're doing, but don't stop."

Dr. Silva doesn't hold back when addressing the systemic issues plaguing modern medicine. He describes a "military system" where physicians follow orders rather than pursue optimal patient outcomes, and where pharmaceutical sponsorships influence treatment protocols. The human element of medicine has been systematically removed, with doctors "running like rats on a treadmill" given just 15 minutes per patient. "It takes the human out of it," he laments, emphasizing how true healing requires doctors to "cross the room, put your hand on the patient's shoulder" and show them "I'm in the ring with you."

Looking toward a brighter future for cancer care, Dr. Silva envisions an integrated approach combining conventional treatments with nutritional interventions, lifestyle modifications, and alternative therapies. His message to patients navigating cancer today is clear: explore complementary approaches that might enhance your primary therapy's effectiveness, even if it means doing so without your primary oncologist's knowledge.

Join us for this eye-opening conversation that will forever change how you think about cancer treatment, patient advocacy, and the courage required to step outside medical dogma in pursuit of healing. Subscribe now and share this episode with anyone whose life has been touched by cancer.

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Speaker 1:

2, 3, 4. 2, 3, 4. Secretly recorded from deep inside the bowels of a decommissioned missile silo, we bring you the man, one single man, who wants to bring light to the darkness and dark to the lightness. Although he's not always right, he is always certain. So now, with security protocols in place, the protesters have been forced back behind the barricades and the blast doors are now sealed. Without further delay, let me introduce you to the host of HuttCast, mr Tim Huttner.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Sergeant-at-Arms. You can now take your post. The views and opinions expressed in this program are solely those of the individual and participants. These views and opinions expressed do not represent those of the host or the show. The opinions in this broadcast are not to replace your legal, medical or spiritual professionals. Welcome to HuttCast. Today is 8-24-25. We got a very special guest today. Broadcasting from an undisclosed location Bunker Underground. This is HuttCast Today. We are joined by Dr Orlando Silva, a very respected oncologist with decades of experience in hematology cancer treatments. He has been at the front lines of medicine from Duke to Miami, with focus on breast cancer and patient care. We'll cut through the medical noise and get his take on where oncology stands today what's changing, what patients really need to know. Stay tuned. This is going to be a good one, Hot cast Is your patriotism.

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Speaker 2:

Welcome back to H HeadCast Today on the phone, dr Landy. Dr Landy Silva, are you there and can you hear me?

Speaker 4:

Yes, sir, I'm here, Looking forward to our talk today.

Speaker 2:

Well, I've done some extensive research on you and I really like what I see. I've got your education down. I see your board certifications. I see your board certifications. I see your professional affiliations. I got your career and clinical practice work here. So I'm going to kind of jump into some questions, if you don't mind. I don't mind at all, let's go for it. What? The first question is who are you? What do you do? Because, although I read it, my listener says not okay, I'm a.

Speaker 4:

I'm a internist, a physician, internist, a medical oncologist, any hematologist and for many years uh, I specialized in breast cancer, although I had my certification in all the different uh in all my career in hematology and oncology and I treated different cancers as well as well as hematological problems. And currently I'm seeing patients through Zoom, through telemedicine. I'm doing telehealth, helping patients that have issues with turbo cancers and other conditions secondary to vaccine injury.

Speaker 2:

Wow. So can you get a good grasp on them? On a telehealth, oh yes.

Speaker 4:

And it's pretty comprehensive. I go through all their medical records and so it could be a Parkinson's patient, or breast cancer or colon cancer. I review all the PET scans, I review all the pathology and then we go from there. We review their treatments and then we think of alternative treatments to complement the chemotherapy, not necessarily to replace it or to get rid of it. So this is what we do we try to complement, like I like to say, I like to turn over any and every stone available to bring the best to the patient as if it were me or my family member.

Speaker 2:

Right so. Dr, Silva, you've had decades of experience in oncology. From your current perspective, what are the most common misconceptions patients and even other physicians might have about cancer treatment today?

Speaker 4:

I think the misconception is some of it. For instance, dietary you can start with dietary. Many of us traditional oncologists believe that you can eat whatever you want, ignoring the fact that cancer is a metabolic disease. So that has to be taken into account. So diet, nutrition, is very important. For instance, to put a patient into ketosis because ketones prevent cancer from growing. Cancer needs glucose and it doesn't grow with ketones.

Speaker 4:

Usually ignore at medical centers and in private practice, because we were never taught that in medical school and because it takes a lot of time to explain these things. So that's one thing that we ignore. Another thing that we ignore is treatment with alternative medicines that complement chemotherapy and radiation, such as ivermectin, fenbendazole, mebendazole. These medicines are wonderful and they each have at least 12 different mechanisms of action to complement chemotherapy, for the chemotherapy to work better, for longer and with less side effects Wow. So these are things that we ignore because we're just. You know, the way that we're trained is like a rat on a treadmill. Okay, and then you see the rat running. They increased the treadmill and you basically have 15 minutes per patient if you're lucky, and that's horrible. I mean trying to explain to somebody that their scans show that there's progression. Show them where's the progression, why there's progression, how to take a new medicine to attack the progression and the side effects of the new medicine. How do you do that in 15 minutes?

Speaker 2:

It never happens.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, never happens, it's very difficult. So they got us as physicians on that, running like the rat on the treadmill and you're catching your breath all the time and then they give you these extensive notes that you have to write for documentation purposes and that takes more time away from patient care. It's all been planned to take that one-on-one time, that eye contact, the crossing the room and putting your hand on the shoulder of the patient and listening to their worries, their complaints and their family members. That has been done in a military sense to wipe that out. For us to do our very best for those of us that have the vocation and love our patients Incredible.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they try to have the vocation and love our patients Incredible.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, they try to kill the vocation. It takes the human out of it. Yeah, exactly, it's dehumanization. You said it perfectly.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Tim. Well, you said it, I just repeated it, but it's incredible that you know. My next question leads into this innovation versus tradition. Where do you see the biggest clashes right now between traditional cancer protocols and emerging therapies like inhuman therapy, precision medicine, metabolic approaches?

Speaker 4:

Sure, I don't see any limitation at all between the therapies. I think we need to think of each person as an individual. I don't see any limitation at all between the therapies. I think we need to think of each person as an individual and do the best for each person. For example, lance Armstrong. He had brain metastases. He was cured with chemotherapy.

Speaker 4:

So are we going to ignore chemotherapy now? No, we want to use the best chemotherapy available with the best nutritional support and other medicines that will make it better. How about if someone has metastasis to their spine? Are we going to tell them don't do radiation therapy? Of course not, because they're going to end up paralyzed in a wheelchair by severing their spinal cord. So you want to do the radiation with other medicines that are radiosensitizers, like the ivermectin and the mebendazole and the fenbendazole. All of these are wonderful and they complement each other.

Speaker 4:

So the limitation that I see is in the physicians not opening their minds, because we have been trained in this military system the military system that if you don't have a phase four randomized clinical trial with thousands of patients is no good. So that limits you, for instance, to the ketogenic diet okay, or that limits you to ivermectin it doesn't matter that ivermectin won the Nobel Prize in 2016. It doesn't matter that I've done 44 medical missions and on all my medical missions I took ivermectin and gave ivermectin away, never saw a side effect. That has nothing to do with the news coming on and saying ivermectin is so dangerous, it's horse paste. That's ridiculous. Okay, but most of the people took it on face value and that's where the greatest limitation I see that we just take. We're taking our education from CNN and, furthermore, we're taking our education from articles and journals that have been compromised. How come is it that the New England Journal of Medicine the greatest journal ever, just like the Lancet okay, the Lancet had to retract articles. When have you ever seen that? Okay, because they were publishing false information. The New England Journal of Medicine published the article on the vaccines with the redacted data from Pfizer. They never saw the original data. How is that possible? They would have seen all kinds of side effects. They would have seen how all these pregnant women lost their babies in their first trimester. All of that would have been published. All of that was silenced because they didn't see it. Call it convenience, whatever you want, but in the end there have been. The first trimester loss went up 40 times. That's not 40%, unbelievable, that's 4,000% Right.

Speaker 4:

And then myocarditis and the turbo cancers. We're seeing types of cancers we've never seen, like stage four colorectal cancer in 20 year olds, without family history. This is not a Lynch syndrome. No, no, no, no, de novo. And you're wondering what happened? Well, you took three shots of venom. They put something in the venom. They called it mRNA, because it's not even mRNA, because you make RNA, messenger RNA, and I do, and our messenger RNA circulates for four seconds. That's it. However, that's because a base pair called uracil that becomes uridine is degraded in four seconds. But what they injected people with had pseudo-uridine. It's not even a real messenger RNA and you know what happened. It's not biodegradable. So these poor people that were led by lies and pressure, social pressures of losing their job, they are now, most of them, producing uh, despite protein, the lethal protein, the toxic protein, in continuation. So they need to detox, they need to get rid of this poison in their body for them and their children, their loved ones which, which goes go ahead.

Speaker 4:

No, no, I just wanted to tell you there's not one family that hasn't been touched. Oh, absolutely, because most families are split down the middle half one side, half the other. No, you couldn't come to christmas because you didn't take the shot right. Half the, you know right how is that?

Speaker 2:

even you know people are scared, not not so much. On my radio show there are a lot of people listening. They understand both sides of the fence. You either take the shot or you don't. And if you don't I get it, If you do, I get it. But where is patient care In your practice? How do you balance the science of medicine with the human side, delivering hard truths while also inspiring and installing hope?

Speaker 4:

Listen, that's an amazing question. Thank you for asking me that, because I'll give you examples. You know, when this COVID thing broke out by May of 2020, right at the beginning there was an article by an amazing infectious disease expert one of the best in the world from France. His name is Didier Raoul. I treated over 1,000 patients I believe 1,064, and pulled them out with the acitromycin, the hydroxychloroquine. It wasn't a perfect study, but we had so much data to save lives already. And what were we doing? No, no, go home. There's nothing we can do for you. Come back when you can't breathe.

Speaker 4:

Nobody recommended anything, nothing, not even high doses of vitamin d. Right, nothing was recommended. So, and then on the other side, they were using a medicine that had been shown to have a 53 that's, a 53 mortality that was remdesivir. So it was okay to use remdesivir because Fauci said it, okay, even though I had a 53% mortality. However, you couldn't use ivermectin because CNN said it was horse pace. You couldn't use the hydroxychloroquine from Dr DT's study. And then Dr Zelenko, a month later, replicated the study with 600 patients that were very sick, many diabetic and intubated out of a New York hospital, and he replicated the study and still, it was no good, you know.

Speaker 4:

So these are the powers that we were fighting and people were just doing and following, mostly out of fear, what was coming from Fauci? Because medicine is a military system. When you're an intern, you follow your resident. When you're a resident, you follow the fellow. When you're a fellow, you follow the attending the attending. You know, it's just so. When the CDC spoke, we always believe we're the good guys. You know, we're doing the best for our patients. So we followed the CDC and we followed the NIH and because of them, billions of people will die.

Speaker 2:

Now you said a name of a doctor and I'm not going to repeat that name. It starts with an F.

Speaker 4:

I didn't say doctor, I didn't use the word doctor.

Speaker 2:

Remember that. No, this is your opinions and you are absolutely right to ghost him here. But I have it on great authority. He, once in a while, catches my shows. What would you tell him?

Speaker 4:

Oh, I heard he was Catholic. I would tell him to go to confession and to ask for the mercy of the Lord.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Just ask for God.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, ask for God. There's no turning back here. I mean he could come clean, but the people that have this poison in them, if they don't detox, many of them have cerebral cancer, myocarditis and infertility. This is awful. Yeah, it's not cancer myocarditis and infertility.

Speaker 2:

This is awful. Yeah, it's not an. I'm sorry, not a. Hey, I followed my chain of command, not a. I mean, there's a whole lot you could say to a guy if he's listening, even if he's listening by proxy.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, no, I've never thought about that question. I think it's like well, what would you say to Mengele to go back?

Speaker 2:

If you're asking me, I'd say a lot of things, but I'm that guy.

Speaker 4:

Right. Well then we need you. We need you to give good ideas, because Mengele killed millions, but this guy's taken out billions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but Mengele's dead, the F is alive.

Speaker 4:

I love this conversation. Those are great points.

Speaker 2:

I've done a couple in my day.

Speaker 3:

Let's shift gears.

Speaker 2:

Here we are at number five on my question list. Okay, After number five I'm going to take a mid-break, I'm going to do some promo and then we'll come back with the holistic view. So my last question for this section is research and controversy. Some doctors and researchers are revisiting old therapies, ones to miss way back in the past. They don't use them anymore, so do you think that that medicine has been too quickly discarded? Those approaches, and why didn't they fit in the mainstream narrative at that time?

Speaker 4:

Sure. So do you want me to answer this now or after the break? No, let's do this now. Oh, okay, well, I don't know what the powers that were at the time. Sometimes you revisit studies and when you read the fine print, you find that things weren't really evaluated properly, that there were all kinds of pressures from the sponsors of the trial, and so sometimes you find things that are worth revisiting because some of the data was incorrect and that's why that idea was canceled. You know, like I'll give you a perfect example, hydroxychloroquine worked modestly, not as well as ivermectin. However, it saved a lot of lives.

Speaker 2:

Sure.

Speaker 4:

Now there was an article that they published that hydroxychloroquine didn't work and it caused toxicity. Well, when you read the fine print, they use four times the dose they used them. That's not right. That's not the dose of hydroxychloroquine. So then people say, no, no, hydroxychloroquine has been thrown out. That's not the dose of hydroxychloroquine. So then people say, no, no, hydroxychloroquine has been thrown out. That's not true. You didn't read the article, you didn't understand what happened. This was completely manipulated data. So sometimes you can go back and see that there's some data that wasn't interpreted correctly and used incorrectly.

Speaker 2:

Now you say interpreted. You say interpreted, I've got to catch you on that one yeah Interpreted or transmitted incorrectly.

Speaker 4:

Well, actually transmitted. In that case, it was done purposefully wrong and transmitted incorrectly. So weaponized, exactly, weaponized, militarized that's the system that we have in medicine, which is very sad, it's incredible. So weaponized, exactly, weaponized, militarized that's the system that we have in medicine, which is very sad.

Speaker 2:

It's incredible, isn't it? Yes, sir, I can't. You know, I've done enough of these shows. And I talk to a lot of intelligent people like yourself, and you sit back and you pump the brakes and go. Really, what are these guys thinking? And again, again, the wife gives me crap all the time. She says, uh, the covid, the shots, mrna, it's all dead stuff right now. And I said I don't think it is. Yeah, it's not over, it's not over.

Speaker 4:

We don't even know what's over yet right, because there's uh studies coming out that even at three years okay, over 900 days, over three years people are still producing the spike protein. These are people that only took two shots. So there are people that I'm seeing, patients that have taken four or five.

Speaker 2:

Whoa.

Speaker 4:

Even young people. And I always say the same thing why did you take number five? You know it's like. Is it that number four didn't work? Of course you know it's like. You know when did the brick hit you? You know these young people.

Speaker 2:

I get it. You want to do what's right, you want to follow your leaders, but I have to keep reminding them that their leaders are not political. Their leaders are doctors and the doctors shouldn't be following the political leaders Exactly. They need to follow the people of the law. I mean God's law.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it wasn't Democrat or Republican. Nope, this was medical, this was about human beings, period. Yep, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Okay. Did that clear up that last question to your satisfaction? Yes, sir, okay, we are 19 minutes and 57 seconds into this first half. I'm going to take a break for some sponsors and Doctor, we're going to have a conversation about systematic barriers and holistic views. Perfect, can you hang tight for a minute? Yes, sir, okay, stand by.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

What an excellent opportunity to have some questions answered by a wonderful human being, dr Landy. Thank you, can you hear me okay Again being Dr Landy? Thank you, can you hear me okay again? Yes, sir, okay, I had to reposition mics. I had to pay the neighbor to get $10 to mow later the whole deal. It was kind of a thing. Okay, all right. Now when I get back, I want to talk about holistic view, but first I want to hit the topic of systematic barriers.

Speaker 3:

What role?

Speaker 2:

do you believe healthcare system, insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, et cetera, and regulatory bodies plays limiting or advancing patient care? Because this is kind of a big one and don't put your license in jeopardy answering it, so if you can't answer, I got you.

Speaker 4:

No, I think we're compromised by our sponsorship. Most major medical centers are sponsored by big pharma and things like that, and the perfect example is the story of Joe Tippins. Is the story of Joe Tippins. So, as we all know and you can look it up, Joe Tippins was a gentleman with small cell lung carcinoma that had progressed and had more than 90 metastases in his body and essentially they told him there's nothing else for you.

Speaker 4:

And he's the one that went home, spoke with a friend. He had lost close to 70 pounds, and he spoke to a friend who he had lost close to 70 pounds, and he spoke to a friend who was a veterinarian and told him hey, listen, there's this thing called fenbendazole that disappears tumors in animals, and he said I'll try it. So he started doing the fenbendazole, along with a couple other things. He went back to MD Anderson and three months later and they said, hey, whoa, you're here, yeah, I'm here. And then they scanned him and he said, oh, your tumors are shrinking. Three months later, there were no tumors left and his attending there which I understand was someone important and MD Anderson told him listen, I don't believe in what you're doing, Don't stop.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 4:

Don't stop doing it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't believe what you're doing, but don't stop it.

Speaker 4:

Don't stop doing it. Yeah, I don't believe what you're doing, but don't stop it, don't stop. And when I heard that statement it it almost made me want to cry wow because the right answer should have been hey, buddy, what are you doing? Teach me andy anderson. We're here to save millions of lives. Tell me what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Yep, teach me this method.

Speaker 4:

What are you doing? I mean, let's go out there and let's beat cancer.

Speaker 2:

There's no money in that.

Speaker 4:

Right, but because of sponsorship and the way things are done and because how politically incorrect these medicines became, we became soldiers that march to that and we follow this line and there's only one line, but there should be many lines that come together for the betterment of our patients.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I understand the word of infinity. I mean not to insult you, but the word infinity in the electronics world. That's a way of tracing a line, a signal.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 2:

That never ends, never crosses path with the left or the right. Infinity open Right, and it sounds like medicine has this infinity directive. Instead of crossing lines and trying to figure out how this works, communicating it's just. Does that sound like that to you?

Speaker 4:

Yes, but those lines can be shattered, and that's what we're doing today.

Speaker 2:

Good, that's what we're doing today, me and you, yes, on this show, so that millions of people can hear this.

Speaker 4:

Yes, sir, and that's what Joe Tippins did six years ago and he's alive six years ago and he did it and he shattered that. Some people didn't see it, but many of us who are awake and looking for the well-being of humanity, saw it.

Speaker 2:

Dr Brian Artis has been on my show many times. We talk on a regular basis. He's a good guy. I love him to death and every time he comes on, my ratings go through the roof. So I gotta love the guy, right, yeah? And we have these conversations and you brought him up and I just thought, yeah, I should probably touch base and let people know that he's still around. We love him to death and we should have him on the show again and see what's new in the world.

Speaker 4:

He had the symposium a couple months back, but last Saturday, august 16th, him and I were on a lecture series together.

Speaker 3:

Nice.

Speaker 4:

With also Dr Judy Mikevitz and other people. It was great. It was great.

Speaker 2:

Uh, are you ready for my next uh point of view? Yes, sir. Okay, it's kind of a holistic kind of view Now. Now, do you believe that lifestyle, nutrition, environmental uh factors are are being under evaluated in ecology? Because if so, what would you change and how would you treat to prevent that as a cancer?

Speaker 4:

Well, great question. Yes, for instance, I went to some of the best universities in the world. We never were taught nutrition. This is one of these things that was completely taken off the table and then and this has a lot of ramifications things that was completely taken off the table and then and this has a lot of ramifications.

Speaker 4:

For instance, somewhere on the 1960s, seed oils that were toxic and inflammatory to our body were introduced into the American diet. Food coloring was introduced into the American diet, into the American diet. Food coloring was introduced into the American diet. We were taught to eat diets that were low in fat. So we needed fats for the brain and fats are healthy, and we needed good oils, not the bad oils, not the vegetable, burnt seed oils that they were introducing to us. So all of this created an inflammatory process in our body that really had. That was the root, and the inflammation led to diabetes, a fatty liver diabetes. It led to cancer, it led to heart disease and it led to Alzheimer's. It's all one disease. It's different manifestations of inflammation.

Speaker 4:

Okay, so we were never taught this. We were never really taught basic things like vitamin D, how important vitamin D is, that vitamin D controls about 2,400 genes of your immune system and that what we need is to have a vitamin D level of close to 100 or over 100, minus 134. Imagine when they reported on the autopsy series of over 300 people that were studied and restudied by Dr McCullough and colleagues and they looked at the vitamin D levels no one with a vitamin D level of over 50 died from COVID. Imagine what we needed was vitamin D Interesting. I mean so many basic things. You know it's like. If you need a vitamin D, if you have good solid levels of vitamin D, why would you ever need a flu shot?

Speaker 2:

Right right.

Speaker 4:

So it's all a circle that they have put us in, to run in that circle like the rat on the treadmill. Yeah, I see. Yeah, we need to open that circle and allow things like change the way we eat. Think about this butter, real butter from grass-fed cows. It's one of the healthiest things you can eat. It's wonderful for you. It's great to fry. As opposed to remember. I don't know your age, but I remember when I was a kid that margarine was the way to go. Margarine is like one step removed from plastic and it has seed oils and I'm like I look at it now, but back then I thought margarine was the bomb. But they have brought us into this circle that it all led to inflammation, and so I'm sorry if I went off topic.

Speaker 2:

No, you're good, You're good. You know you keep saying this right on the wheel.

Speaker 2:

And all I think of is infinity. Yeah, there's no crossing the line, it's just there all the time. One direction, yeah, but we can shatter it. We can shatter it, so throwing'll throw in another question at you not to spin you back to this thing the future of oncology. Now, let's put this thing into overdrive by about 20 years Into the future. What would you like to see? The standard of care for cancer treatment? Now, we kind of got the gist of what you're saying, but this is more of a direct. What would you hope to leave behind also, I mean, it's go ahead.

Speaker 4:

Well, first, I would hope that in the next 20 years, with the changes that are being made by eating healthy oils, removing food coloring and decreasing the inflammation, there will be a lot less cases of cancer. That's one. But I would hope that cancer care in the future would involve a multidisciplinary system that would include more than chemotherapy, radiation surgery. It would include, besides, perhaps, a good study, because there have been some great studies of medicines, like with Herceptin and breast cancer. Okay. So, besides including that arm, including the arm of alternative medicine, okay.

Speaker 4:

So like, for instance, fasting. Why, why are we ignoring fasting in patients that are stage one, extremely healthy, that can handle a five day fast to go into, you know, autophagy and mitophagy and do much better when the chemotherapy starts, you know. So I believe that in 20 years, oncology is going to look a lot different because we'll be incorporating many alternatives that are going to fight the cancer at the metabolic level shutting down its stem cell, shutting down its growth, changing its environment for it to be no longer to grow and to reverse to undergo death.

Speaker 2:

Sure, sure. Now. What would you leave behind? What would you want to stop? What do you mean? What would you want to stop? What do you mean? What would you want to stop? What would you want to hope is left behind in the future of our college, Like you don't want to use it anymore. You want it to go away.

Speaker 4:

Well, I would love for the medical system to be an open system for the best, for every stone to be unturned for every patient, for all these things to be available for patients, and when you went to get the best care, you got all the care all the best care.

Speaker 2:

So, to break it down, you would want the medical industry to adapt alternative methods. Yes, to adapt to the truth, I would want the patients to receive the truth, so leave behind this systematic infinity of medicine right, because as you go on, there's going to be more things that come up.

Speaker 4:

There are wonderful, you know things like. I was just reading an article it was a case study how a lady with brain metastases from lung cancer her lung metastases reduced only by her doing molecular hydrogen gas tablets. Really Okay, yeah, wonderful, and I'm finding more studies on cancer and molecular hydrogen. Why are we ignoring that? Okay, so I would hope that in 20 years, when this comes up, it could be incorporated in a systematic way to help patients.

Speaker 2:

Nice, nice, good answer. Okay, the next one. Next one's kind of tough, doc, and it ain't going to be all softballs in this show.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

I thought they were pretty tough already.

Speaker 2:

Okay, now this is a medical ethics question. Sure, the only people that can answer this are the people that make decisions. Life and death, that's you guys. I mean. I don't do this for a living. I talk on the radio and I build hot rods in cars and I'm a gun salesman. That's you guys. I mean. I don't do this for a living. I talk on the radio and I build hot rods in cars and I'm a gun salesman. That's what I do. But the question here is in oncology, you're often dealing with life and death decisions every day.

Speaker 3:

How do you?

Speaker 2:

handle the ethical dilemmas where the best treatment isn't always clear-cut.

Speaker 4:

Well, the way I have done it in my practice is you try to individualize the patient and their family, their age, their status, and to do what is best for them and to deliver news with a lot of humanity, with kindness because there's many ways of delivering news that you're at the end of the road, or this has too much toxicity, or this is not going to help you, because of A, b and C, but with a lot of tenderness and a lot of love.

Speaker 4:

Okay, a, b and C, but with a lot of tenderness and a lot of love. Okay, there's patients that came to me that said I'm here because my last oncologist told me to go pick out my plot at the cemetery. Okay, and I said, oh, wow, or you know, I mean, these are real stories. Yes, they are, you know, and there are many wonderful, beautiful oncologists out there with a great vocation. It's just they're just looking in one direction and once they just turn their head and they see that there's so much to do to save so many more lives, they will jump on that bandwagon in a heartbeat, because they just have hearts of gold and they're just been indoctrinated.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't believe any doctor gets into this to ignore the human side of this.

Speaker 4:

I don't. That's the whole point of this. Yeah, I agree. And so when it comes down, you need to, you know, cross the room, put your hand on that patient's shoulder and speak to them and their family and see what their wishes are and do the best for them to integrate the best possible care not shutting doors, but trying to open doors.

Speaker 2:

And possibilities for them. You ever take a patient, put your hand on his shoulder and bring him into a hug, because he's that destroyed.

Speaker 4:

Oh, yes, many times. I never had a patient, I didn't hug.

Speaker 2:

Okay, see, that shows the human part.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's worth something, that's worth everything to me.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, the patient needs to know that you're in the ring with him yes if you're just sitting in your chair by your computer and you're telegraphing these news like punches. You have progressed, there's no more treatment, you're going to die. We're recommending hospice. You just kill that guy. That guy's dead in front of you. Okay, so it's. That is one thing. Now, when you walk across the room and you put that hand on the shoulder, that means buddy, I'm in the ring with you, okay. So these things are, are very important, and that's not just to do on the last visit, that's to do on every visit. The thing is that that takes time, my dear tim. It takes time, and they got you on the wheel right, right, I get that Infinity again.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That was a tough question, wasn't it?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was. It brought back many memories and it's a tough moment when you get there, because your dream is always to get them to one more Christmas, to one more birthday, to one more graduation. You know you're always, you're fighting for that all the time. That's what you hope and pray for.

Speaker 2:

Excellent question, I'm sorry. Excellent answer to that question. I'm just I'm kind of welling up here a little bit because everybody's been touched by it, like you said earlier. Yes, sir, now a personal perspective. What drew you into this medicine, specifically oncology, and was there a defining moment in your life and career that says you know what? I made this choice and it's the right path?

Speaker 4:

Sure, I'll tell you, my mom died when I was young and my father's a medical oncologist, okay, and he used to take me on rounds with him and I used to see how he used to touch a patient, hug them, kiss them.

Speaker 4:

He great, great oncologist, and he inspired me because of the human part, not only because oncology had new drugs and new things, hopefully new hopes for people to live longer and better, but because there was a human side, almost as a country doc, you know, when country docs get to the end, they go visit their patients at home and I have to tell you I did visit many of my patients at home when they were in hospice. I would go by and sit with them and have a cup of coffee with them and talk to them and I would go to their funerals. And it's very hard because at some point and I would go to their funerals, and it's very hard because at some point I was really, uh, very, very, very sad, but by this, but it was amazing. I remember being at one of them and and hearing, um, uh, a lady said can you believe the doctor came to dad's funeral. That's how special, that's how special my dad was, wow. So it makes a real difference for the entire family and it helps them with that circle of life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can imagine that Very difficult. It's a difficult time for everybody involved. It's not like an episode of House where you come in and kick everybody's ass and you're the shittiest doctor for bedside but you're the best brilliant mind in the world. It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 4:

No, but it would be great to have that brain.

Speaker 2:

I can't dispute that one. Yes.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that sounds very Now.

Speaker 2:

If you had one piece of advice for the patients and families navigating cancer right now and there's people listening what's that one piece you would wish everyone you could hear Now, don't spin off. I want a direct, 10-second answer because this is a very important question, and they are listening. What would they say? What would you say to them?

Speaker 4:

I would tell them, I would ask them to look for alternatives to combine with their therapies to make those therapies work better. Things like ivermectin, fenbendazole, mebendazole, things like melatonin at high doses has anti-cancer activity, and many, many other things like that. For instance, for parkinson's patients. I have seen incredible results with a nicotine patch. I mean, I would just tell them you know, and I have patients on carbidopa, levodopa, the the parkinson's medicines doing great with a nicotine patch. So these are things that I would tell them. Open up, look more. And unfortunately, some of the times, you can't tell your physicians all the things that you're doing. Because I've had experiences where a patient told me well, my oncologist just kicked me out of the office for using ivermectin. Wow, he says he can no longer treat me Whoa. Experiences where a patient told me well, my oncologist just kicked me out of the office for using ivermectin, he says he can no longer treat me. Whoa, yeah, because these are political decisions, they're not medical decisions.

Speaker 2:

Keep it to yourself.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, sometimes that's what you have to do, unless there's an open doc that says you know, and you can tell the open docs. You can mention, hey, my friend had ivermectin, and you open up the door and you'll see whether he or she is going to tell you don't do that, that's poison. Cnn says not to do it.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

Or you're going to have someone that says look, if you're going to do something, I'm okay with it. I just want the best for you. You know. Let me know what you're doing so I can look at the side effects and see how it interacts with what I'm doing. There's an open door there. You know. You explore with a patient, with their you know alternatives. So that's what I would do with a patients Invite them to dig deeper and fight harder. Looking for research meaning in the research arena.

Speaker 2:

Wow, isn't that something? I often define the word, like the dictionary does for the Webster's compassion. Compassion is the meaning, the very definition, and people don't really understand it. I mean it's the sympathetic consciousness of others distressed, together to alleviate it. So, in a nutshell, the compassion is sharing the trauma, the wins, the you know, the sufferings, the misfortunes. I mean it's just a lot of people forget that.

Speaker 4:

And in this field of opening up these horizons for this patient, we have to speak about Dr Mackes. William Mackes has been really a guiding light in this field. He has been wonderful and I just got to tell you, at Grave Care with Priscilla, we're really doing everything we can also to provide these alternatives for the patients, for them to have a better shot, and, by the grace of God, we have seen some beautiful results. We have lost some patients, but we have seen some really truly amazing results.

Speaker 2:

Well, hud-cast is a full supporter of Priscilla and Grief Care. They are one of our sponsors. What more can I say? I mean, they're aces with us, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, they're great.

Speaker 2:

Is there any type of book? We're going to plug you a little bit here. Book website is it through the Grave Care? Are you one of their members? How does this work with you?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I work strictly through Grave Care. With Grave Care right now we're getting patients from all over the world, actually from Germany, lebanon, italy, israel and all of the United States. We're getting patients from Uruguay. People are reaching out and we're doing the best that we can for all of them. I speak Spanish as my first language, english and Italian is my third language and I do okay with French, and so we're helping all the patients that we can that reach out.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome. You mentioned every country HUTCAST has been in is still in Beautiful. I love it, isn't that weird? You're like, okay, we've got Uruguay, I'm counting off as you're listing off these countries. Oh, that's fantastic. So I would only hope that HUDCAST would have a small hand in this endeavor, which you guys do.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, hopefully we can get to a lot of patients through your voice.

Speaker 2:

It's through your voice. I'm just the reporter. My job is not to be the news, but to report the news.

Speaker 4:

There you go, thank you.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what do we got here? Oh, 25 in this section. I was going to keep it nice and short, but you're such an interesting guy I had to ask these questions. You're incredible. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Well, Huttcast is going to pull up in unless you've got nothing else to say.

Speaker 4:

Doc, no, just many blessings to you, your family and all those that are listening. Many blessings to all of them.

Speaker 2:

I'll get this edited up and I'll send you a private link where you can listen to it. Okay, thank you, sir. Have a great day. The honor's mine. Thank you, sir, and that's a wrap for HuttCast. Huttcast is again a pragmatic approach to seeing things how some people see them. If you like our show, give us a thumbs up on the Facebook site Again for HuttCast. Thank you again. Have a wonderful evening. I am the geekcom. Thank you again, have a wonderful evening.

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